How have you been on a break this week with just a dozen players to train?
We looked like an indoor soccer team. We have headdresses, although it is not serious, with several players without training as a precaution. I think next week we will get almost everyone back.
How are the injured defenders doing? They seem gaffed.
The Valín thing was bad luck, a blow with Adri Castro that ended in a sprain. Hector is overloaded. Eneko and Salva have already joined. Granero has knee problems, his knee is a bit swollen but I hope the liquid dries up. I trust that for the week we will all be there except Derik, I even hope Valín arrives.
The break is good physically, and in sports?
I think it suits us. Getting people back is already an important help. The truth is that I did not understand the reason for this break in Second B, I think nobody knows. But a posteriori it does not hurt us. At the collective level it is not a great advantage either because I have few people.
When this was possible, he said he needed a month to see a full Depor and it is now true …
In this world sometimes you create expectations … And even if they are met, it depends on how happy you are. You cannot be happy if you are not satisfied and always want more. It is a vital thought. In life sometimes we are not happy because we have almost everything, but we want more. That is why we are unhappy. That happens a bit at Depor. I know where I am and what team I train. The team is delivering on the numbers level, but it is not enough. Many people prefer to be unhappy rather than happy.
Although the message was from the beginning that 'nobody is going to destroy here', it may hurt the fans to see later that it is a reality …
As much as you send a message, it can be received or not. If the Cup is analyzed and you see what happens to many First B teams with those of Second B … The other day Imanol remembered what they suffered the previous year to eliminate Becerril, a Third … I won in Second B to First. Mallorca descended two years ago to Second B with a team very similar to the one they had in First. I invite you to see those games. I can't promise to promote Depor in November. But I promise, which is difficult to promise, that I will do my best so that Depor is in Second Division next year. I consider sportsmanship an impressive movement. I am convinced that he is with the team. You have to trust and give confidence to the team. If the shots go towards me … that's something else. A team is what you think it is. If you trust him it will be better. I think the fans trust their coach. Why is the Depor so big if we are in Second B? Because his hobby is very great, because people love him.
Would those doubts be different if the fans could go to the field?
Of course it has to do. I don't know how the fans would react to us, but I know that we lose a lot without them. There are people who want to explain the Athletic situation because the tie with the fans was broken; evidently. We are a bit orphaned without them. We beat Salamanca because there were 3,000; We lost a very important trick. Now it is more difficult for the fans to appreciate what state the team is in. I don't know if it's about social networks, I'm not into it. Or that now the media are gaining more strength, because it is what exists, there is no support from the fans. We are great because we add many and good. Let's adopt a culture of team support in difficult times. Depor Identity, through thick and thin. Whatever happens.
“The team is delivering on the numbers level, but it seems that it is not enough. A lot of people prefer to be unhappy rather than happy.”
It is not only in Second B, in recent years there was almost more tension in Second and First. Do you think it is the weight of the great past of Depor?
You have to analyze what happened in recent years and do all self-criticism. I remember in the year I was promoted to First, the fans and the media asked me at the beginning of the season not to be relegated to Second B. That team achieved something very difficult. You have to analyze what happened next. I say unity, unity; support, ongoing support in the field. No division. No rum rum. Now that young kids are arriving, let there be that identity that the footballer who is in Depor feels what Depor is. Depor is above the results. It is great news that Depor has dropped to Second B and there is no social fracture. I was in other clubs that after relegation it was almost impossible to train.
Is it little valued that the team is a leader?
Sometimes I put myself in the opposite situation. Imagine that we have 4 points and the team was a spectacle playing. It would be the same. The team met expectations in terms of game, but not in results. I am not happy because I want something else. I understand it, but I would like to see Depor's preseason analyzed. When did it start, which footballers were there, which ones left, in what state the signings were coming. To think that in 15 days I could be able to dock, improve in offense and defense… is almost asking for pears from the elm. It is materially impossible. I think we are in a good situation, you cannot ask for the promotion in November. You have to prepare for when you play the competition in the eighths and quarters. Meanwhile, you have to know how to wait and be patient. I know that the team has evolution and is going to improve in attack and defense. When is it going to happen? I dont know. I know that every day we are closer. There are people who say and write that last year the team knew what they were playing and now they don't. I think there is a clear difference and that the idea of this Depor is not the same as last year. That it is not perfect, obviously, it is clear. But we know where we are going. And in case it does not work, the coach does not master a single facet of how to attack and defend. If this model does not work, it would have the ability to apply another. I need time and, if while it happens we win, the better. It is what we are doing.
It is striking that, after trying it all season, I still haven't played with two forwards.
I never said I was going to play with two forwards. I have four on the squad and with Rolan, five. The function of a coach is to analyze the players and from there make a structure for those who are in the best moment to play. I trained in 4-4-2 because it is very practical to learn many things. I thought I was going to have forwards of a certain level, but it will be when I consider that all the forwards are ready to play 90 minutes. I am not a slave to any system and it seems that every year I start I have to demonstrate things that I have already demonstrated in the past.
Do you think you are being criticized excessively?
I don't notice that, really. What I don't understand is that they want to defend me from criticism because I don't feel that people are doubting Fernando Vázquez. I'm very calm and the club is letting me work perfectly.
“I was very unhappy in the summer for everything that happened, but I'm in the reality of going back to Second for sporting merits, for a promotion”
Do you identify with what happens to Zidane?
No, I don't feel that pressure. I am calm and comfortable. Every now and then I do something stupid, like any human being. After the Coruxo game he was able to give the impression at the press conference that he was angry with the journalists because they criticized me. It wasn't that. It was not the best press conference of my life, I admit that I could be a bit on the edge. But I already gave those answers other times … I am not hurt with the media. Also, you know me and you know that I appreciate the media, which I think is fundamental in this Sport. They are the spokespersons with the fans. It was more that at the end of the game I wanted to be super critical of the team, although I watched the game again and I am not so critical anymore. I get carried away a bit, and I should never do that.
I was telling you about Zidane because, like you, he is in his second stage and the criticisms arise soon.
It is that I deny the major, I feel supported. Last year, in difficult moments, the fans were there. Now they cannot prove it because they are at home. And I say one thing, who criticizes Zidane? Sometimes we make a universal of the media. Do you really think that the social mass of Real Madrid is putting Zidane in question? That is journalistic responsibility. In the end, why do journalists, commentators, sports critics write … To create opinion, to be read. The more influence they have, the more important those newspapers will be. Another thing is that the person who reads it has the ability to say 'no, I'm not going here'. Sometimes it seems that journalistic opinion, especially at the moment, is the general opinion. I don't feel like Zidane, really.
I used to talk about happiness. Are you happy now?
I was very unhappy in the summer because of everything that happened. I still have a sense of misunderstanding. But every day I am more involved in the reality of returning to Second A for sporting merits, for a promotion.
We now put aside the words Tebas, CSD, Fuenlabrada …
Of course, you can talk about that, which does not mean that we do not have assumed the situation. I already said that I have assumed. I know where I am and what I am for. That does not eliminate my ability to reason and debate the situation. I'm out of it, but I still think the same as I did before. Forget, I will never forget. And forgive him, either. I will remember it because what happened was too serious.
Let's get back to the team. Has the time come for a greater role for Gandoy or Borja Galán?
I usually start playing in a certain way and choose some players, I am not a coach who suddenly changes due to a bad game. I am to give confidence to a footballer. But of course there may come a time that says up to here and it is time to change. Borja Galán is perfect to compete, every day he is better. Gandoy, exactly the same. I can make the decision at any time. But it is not a problem, it is an advantage. I have options.
“If Diego Rolan is superdeterminant, the decision of what to do is something that corresponds to the club. Mine, as a coach, would be to stay”
Now he has one more bullet, Diego Rolan. Four games and sell it in January?
You have to ask Richard Barral, I don't know what the club's policy is. But I don't care. I have to talk to him and get him in shape; that's my responsibility. Then, see if the footballer is there to help us or not. How many matches? Well I do not know. He tells me that yes, he is here to play and compete. If you can help us in two, three or four games we will take advantage of it.
And if Rolan comes out he puts two, then another two and the team is seen, in quotes, dependent on him and then lose him.
If Rolan is superdeterminant, the club will have to make the decision. Mine, as a coach, would be stay. That's up to other people.
After Guijuelo, Racing and Pontevedra play. Are these matches viewed as a small test?
Similar to any game, another part of the competition. I'm not waiting for Pontevedra or Racing to arrive to prove something. We have to win now and we have to win later. It's the same for us.
Do you think that after the advances with the vaccine this league will end with the public in the stands?
Yes I think so. I even think before the vaccine. The situation is complicated, difficult and tough. When I improve a little I always think of Riazor, 30,000 seats, that 4,000 or 5,000 spectators can be well organized without danger in the open air does not seem like something that cannot be done. You have to organize it well, especially to get in and out. I think it is not contradictory to say that the situation is complicated and that it can go public. I think you can organize to go to football without security.
What do you think that the club asked to organize the final phase of the promotion playoff in Riazor?
It would be a relief. It is difficult to understand the competitive intelligence that we have to play everything to one match on a neutral ground in the eighths and quarters. We know what football is. I always say that 50% is what you do and another random. I don't understand the reason. Which? The Covid? Why can't you play double-game? Is there a lack of dates? It's that nobody explains anything. Who forms the Federation? Clubs have no opinion? Who decided, the president of the RFEF? I do not know. And if we don't lose a game and in the second round there is a hand, penalty, red … We risk everything to one card. It is curious because the Cup semifinals will be two-legged, a format made by the Federation itself. We will see…