“Without Cristiano Ronaldo one or two goals are lost every game”

He was touched against Chelsea but played a few minutes. How do you feel to face Madrid?

I had an ankle problem, I hadn't trained in two days. I am trying to recover. But the desire is always there. Against Chelsea they asked me and I was able to play for a few minutes. And I don't want to miss this either.

Those who know him say that it is difficult for him to see him from the outside.

I always get angry when they change me, but it is not a negative thing for my colleagues. I always wish whoever comes in to do what is best for the team. It is my way of being, I am not going to change it and my colleagues already know it. Even Lopetegui knows that I am like that, both in the game and even in training.

Bad looser?

Yes, I don't feel like losing anything either. I am not a player who gives me everything the same. The anger over a defeat lasts several days.

Is this so irregular Madrid to get his hand?

Madrid will always be Madrid. Surely its irregularity is the product of this rare season: there are very few teams that always or almost always won. It is still one of the best teams in the world. You will arrive here as an animal that is touched and that will want to recover as soon as possible.

That Zidane is questioned is better or worse for Sevilla?

Worst. That makes them more dangerous. They are going to go out with everything, super motivated, they have that need. And with the quality they have … Madrid's difficult moments make it stronger. Last year he already beat us here in Nervión when he arrived at another bad moment, there he recovered and ended up raising LaLiga. These teams can never be left for dead.

Cristiano is one of his idols. There are those who say that Madrid's departure to Juve was fatal.

Cristiano left and Madrid have won LaLiga, but obviously when a team loses a player of that quality it always shows. With him they were almost guaranteed one or two goals per game. He did them at Manchester United, with Madrid and he is doing them with Juventus. Without Cristiano, any team loses many things.

Talk about goals. You were Sevilla's top scorer last year (17 goals in all competitions). This season he has two, both from penalties. Any reason for it to cost more?

There are times when I am much more tired than normal, it is played very often and without time to recover, but it is not an excuse. The goal comes alone, it already happened to me last year. It reassures me that the team is winning games and I am participating with assists. I work for Sevilla to triumph and I always seek to score.

Last year there were rumors of an alleged interest from Real Madrid and you, of course, did not feel bad.

The only thing I said is that any player's chest would inflate with that, which is something that gives motivation. I don't know if it was misunderstood. It happens with Madrid, with Barcelona, ​​with Manchester United … I am much more eager to work and continue growing as a professional here at Sevilla, who has given me a lot of things and continues to give them to me.

It has been a difficult week for the Argentines with the death of Maradona.

So is. Diego was a benchmark in football and in life. Diego was Argentina. The people of River, Boca or Independiente … they all cried for him, they lived it that way. It transcended t-shirts. Here in Seville he also left a great memory. Diego was football, one grew up playing in a pasture and trying to achieve what he did one day. Being a soccer player inspired you. He was fired as he deserved.

You seem like a tremendously emotional man. Was that way of crying and laughing at the victory in the Europa League true?

Everything came together when we won the Europa League. It is not easy to get to a new team and at Sevilla everyone made it very easy for me. It was noticed that here I am very happy. In addition, it had been a very difficult year because of the pandemic. There was a set of emotions that I ended up enjoying in my own way.

Navas says that now, for the Champions League. Can you dream so much?

Sure, why don't we dream of winning it? I'm positive. What is left to lose? Dreaming costs nothing. Last year the bets were very far in Germany and we turned it around, against Manchester United and Inter. This competition is different, there are other great teams but there is not that much difference with those we beat in the Europa League. We will work to get as far as possible also in the Champions League.