“Koeman is fed up”

On Wednesday it inaugurates its headquarters. With what expectations do you start since you led the vote of no confidence?

I am happy because surely without the motion of censure the situation would be awful. Tusquets' statements confirm this. Things have happened that shouldn't have happened. We have very good expectations, as the bookmakers say, who know about this, we will be three what happens.

Which will be?

Font, Laporta and me.

So there will be no continuation candidate?

People are tired of this way of governing that has been not very transparent, quite dark, with a sporting situation that is visible and the economic one, three-quarters of the same.

What is the most worrying?

The two go together. The other day they asked me if I would sign Neymar or a player like Neymar.

And would you sign him?

Obviously yes, because a player like him would start what Laporta defined as the virtuous circle, if you have the best, you win titles and have more income. One thing without the other is not understood.

And how do you sign without money?

I do not see a problem of this caliber, what happens is that it is a poorly financed club. Long-term debt must be refinanced because it is now short. That is why Espai Barça is basic. The credit model must be changed to that of granting. Debt must be stopped.

Will the campaign be cheaper than sports?

No. The three legs of Barça are social, economic and sports. To grow you have to invest and our main asset is the players. The axis must be La Masia, which must become the sporty and economic engine. As City does with its players, which in one year has earned 146 million.

What image do you think it transmits to the partner after being the leader of the motion?

We have gone from words to deeds. Barça people like brave people and we have shown that we are not here to speak like the rest of the candidates. We come to work.

Are they already doing it?

We are negotiating but from the authority of the candidate.

On what topics?

We are working on the continuity of Leo, Espai Barça, the Barça brand, which we are already creating. If we don't win, which I doubt, we will pass it on to the next president.

Can you pin down the 'Leo theme'?

We design a proposal so that you feel comfortable for the two three four years that may remain. I think that the economic issue is not the primary one. We work to create a joint brand between Messi and Barça and for him to be honorary president or ambassador. We have not yet outlined the position. I want him to stay forever and for Barça and Leo to be united as a brand, which will be very powerful.

He said that people value the brave, if he had not taken the step of the vote of no confidence, would we still be with Bartomeu?

Evidently. Definitely. Everyone spoke of a vote of no confidence, but no one went to the offices with papers.

Did the experience of that vote of no confidence help you to meet other candidates such as Víctor Font or Fernández Alà?

No.

Cast?

They did not come to any photos or to look for tickets. Font still sent someone from his candidacy, but Fernández Alà did not appear.

Didn't you have a sense of cooperation?

I didn't even get to see them. It was all electoral tacticism. If it didn't go well, the problem was mine and if it went well the success belonged to everyone. They didn't come even the day we had made it.

Did it work out miraculously?

No, it was very worked.

Will collecting signatures for Christmas be similar?

Now it will be more personalized. The collection points will be many, we will have more than 100 and 150 volunteers. It will take many volunteers to explain the project. You should go door to door to find signatures.

How will you know where the members live? Maybe because of the data that he collected in the motion process and that created so much controversy?

We asked for the data and everyone who gave it was with their consent to enter the file of our association. I have a database, but they all have it. Those who criticized did it exactly the same, but on a website. Barça is a madhouse.

Regarding 2003, are you running as the new Laporta in conflict with Font and it turns out that Laporta does not want to be Laporta?

I have very clear Laporta does not want to be Laporta and we do not want to be Laporta but the other day when I saw the photos of my team I saw a meeting similar to their first candidacy, with entrepreneurs of 40, 50 years who have earned it them, people young and very prepared. When we introduce the management team and the executive and people will hallucinate

Does Laporta's staging disappoint you?

Yes. When Laporta talks about uniting Barça, it seems bizarre to me, that he has been one of the best presidents, but since 1997, when he presented the motion of censure, he has been one of those who has fostered division. The discourse of goodness does not hit him.

But the opposite is a Barça faced …

We must end civil warfare, but he cannot be the one to stop it, it will have to be someone new, not one of those who has promoted it. I'm surprised that you say that you say not to look back. Barcelona's assets must be preserved.

Do you support a liability action?

If there is embezzlement, you have to act. I don't know what they have done, but Tusquets's words about out-of-market or unclear invoices worry me. We will make a due diligence that we will present it to the partner and I will assume responsibility and I will not do like Sandro Rosell and I will vote blank. The president has to be brave and command.

What is your opinion of Carles Tusquets?

He doesn't understand anything. The first day what he should have done is call elections. Negotiating with the players is not worth much because whoever comes will have to finish it and negotiate to sign it. Now he tells us that he will call us to talk about signings, I don't understand. He is not president, he is president of the management company. He has overreached himself and his words were pathetic.

Should we shake up the sports project?

It is necessary to finish a revolution that has been left half.

With Koeman?

He is a Barça legend. When we win I will talk to him and I will tell him about our sports director, who in a few days we will be able to announce it to you, because he is leaving a club. We will talk to him and find out what he wants to do, if he likes the project he will continue because he is a legend but I don't know if he wants to continue. He came in with a project and I know that he is up to his nose already.

Would you like Messi's response to be as quick as possible?

I hope I renew the day after my choice.

Is that something talked about before?

There is work behind.

Regardless of whether you win or not, how do you think Barça will end this season?

My sports director assures us that we have to save LaLiga and prioritize the Champions League because we are seven games away from winning it. The objective is the Champions League.

Allow me, is that doing Madrid, finishing fourth and winning LaLiga?

Now is what it is.

But this making of Madrid …

There are things about Madrid that Florentino said that are not bad, but adapting them. Zidanes y Pavones' phrase is retouchable. Pavón was worse than rheumatism, but Barça must be La Masia plus the three best in the world. In fact it is the project of my sports director.

In what sense?

He says that being a Barça sports director is the easiest thing in the world because you only have to look at 15 players. There are no more than fifteen players who can play for Barça.

You have lived Barcelona from Núñez to Bartomeu. What do you get from each president you have met?

From Núñez with the economic project and club discipline, from Sandro Rosell with which he banned smoking in the stadium and that I'm a smoker, from Laporta with the sports project and from Bartomeu with the promotion of women's football.